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Old 29th September 2024, 11:29   #1

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USA: Study by California authorities proves electrical cars assistance bring down emanation levels


California's authorities agency, California Air Resources Board (CARB), precocious released a caller survey study showing however electrical cars helped chopped down the state's emanation levels.

As per the study, the rising displacement towards EVs successful the authorities helped chopped its greenhouse state emissions by 2.4% oregon 9.3 cardinal metric tonnes successful 2022, compared to the erstwhile year. It besides stated that emanation levels from 2000 to 2022 crossed sectors fell by 20%, contempt its gross home merchandise expanding by 78%. CARB successful 2004, introduced a landmark regularisation to trim proscription emissions - the nation's archetypal greenhouse emanation standards, which the bureau present says is paying off.

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As per reports, the 2.4% simplification successful emissions is equivalent to removing 2.2 cardinal gas-powered vehicles from California successful 1 year. The proscription assemblage accounts for the highest simplification successful the state's emanation level reduction.

Dr Steven Cliff, Executive Officer, CARB, stated, "California has a program to execute its emanation targets and the information amusement that the programs we enactment successful place—which see expanding the usage of cleanable fuels and making the power to zero-emissions exertion crossed sectors—are working."

Similarly, New York City's Taxi & Limousine Commission (TLC) - the bureau liable for licensing yellowish taxi cabs, for-hire vehicles and different commercialized vehicles, stated that the city's expanding electrical taxi fleet has helped trim its wide CO2 emissions. In 2024 alone, ride-hailing services similar Uber and Lyft person adopted Teslas oregon different EVs accounting for 14 cardinal zero-emission trips. This has translated to helping New York City trim 19,000 metric tonnes of CO2.

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Stating the obvious, but I pulled up the study highlights and I'm incapable to find whether beingness rhythm emissions (i.e scope 3) is taken into account.

If so, past it's truly fortifies the lawsuit for EVs.

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Because of EV/renewables adoption, Californians are decidedly amended disconnected acknowledgment to cleaner air. And USA has managed to flatten CO2 emissions successful the past decade. https://www.worldometers.info/co2-em...co2-emissions/

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But not definite if this is helping Planet Earth & Pacific Islanders whose homes mightiness spell underwater. That's due to the fact that doubts are being raised if this is conscionable transportation of emissions from US to China. EVs sold & solar/wind projects successful California tin beryllium traced backmost to manufacture of either components oregon finished goods successful China. And China's CO2 emissions are increasing rapidly: https://www.worldometers.info/co2-em...co2-emissions/

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A due survey should ideally incorporated estimates connected what the nett alteration successful California/USA emissions would beryllium if renewables/EVs sold successful USA are manufactured wholly successful California/USA (including lithium mining). If reports connected China EV manufacturing CO2 emissions are available, they should springiness a reasonably wide range, since specified a survey tin usage either optimistic oregon pessimistic inputs estimates. There are full batch of CO2 emissions variables here:

- Lithium mining successful Africa/South America
- Transport to China for processing
- Hundreds of factories successful China for assembling EVs/solar/wind turbines to code the booming US/European markets
- Thousands of factories successful China for making EV/renewables components
- Workers travelling backmost & distant successful each of these factories
- The full setup powered by Chinese ember plants
- Shipping of EVs/renewables components/finished goods to USA

None of this is incorporated into 2.4% emissions reductions achieved by California. So specified report/data paints an unrealistic & overly optimistic representation of wide CO2 emissions reduction. I deliberation India is simply a overmuch amended trial furniture to cheque the gait of emanation reduction. That's due to the fact that imports person (or volition person successful the future) a smaller stock successful the manufacture of EV/renewables


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^^ Tesla is the largest carmaker successful California, determination whitethorn beryllium much California made EVs sold successful California than California made ICE sold successful California(if determination is immoderate ICE manufacturing successful the state). Tesla besides has its artillery manufacturing successful California(not definite of contiguous status).

Leave astir China, the authorities has observed simplification successful c emissions wherever the EVs are mostly built successful the State, not imported ICE from different states oregon Mexico.

Global emissions are global, whether emitted successful China oregon US.

Wind farms(also solar) offset their manufacturing emissions wrong 2 years, which means c escaped vigor for adjacent 23years of operation.

It does not substance wherever the upwind turbines are made, they trim planetary emissions. Even if the upwind turbines are made successful California yet they offset their manufacturing.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...power%20plants.


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the authorities has observed simplification successful c emissions wherever the EVs are mostly built successful the State, not imported ICE from different states oregon Mexico.

Last year, US imported $13 cardinal worthy of Lithium ion batteries from China. Total artillery imports were really $16 billion. Also, this is the rumored database of Tesla's suppliers, astir of them successful China/other countries
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...-suppliers.asp

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Wind farms(also solar) offset their manufacturing emissions wrong 2 years, which means c escaped vigor for adjacent 23years of operation.

You are right! But apparently, we request to work this arsenic 40 times little emissions than earthy state plant, from manufacturing to decommissiong, implicit their respective lifetime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life-c...energy_sources

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Looking astatine this lifecycle GHG table, the largish fig for solar/wind suggests manufacturing emissions are significant. Lower works load origin excessively implies that 2x to 3x much powerfulness capableness needs to beryllium created to lucifer the powerfulness procreation of coal/natural gas, unless backed by artillery retention (manufacturing of which further adds to emmissions). So the benefits of EV/renewables volition amusement up lone implicit a longer play of time. Atleast initially, manufacturing emissions of EV/renewables volition offset immoderate of the gains made, arsenic bequest fossil powerfulness plants are coiled up.

So it would beryllium incorrect to accidental "EVs/renewables resulted successful 2% driblet successful California emissions past year" oregon "20% driblet implicit 2 decades", simply due to the fact that manufacturing emissions were transferred to China. The existent gait of nett emissions diminution per twelvemonth would beryllium acold lower.


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Found the lifecycle CO2 emissions information connected EV car manufacturing & usage too:

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Manufacturing an EV results successful a largish summation successful CO2 emissions (minimum 10 tons of CO2 emissions per car) -> but aft 20,000 to 30,000 miles of driving successful the UK, these emissions are offset. It volition beryllium antithetic for antithetic countries, depending connected however powerfulness is generated successful each state (fossil/renewables mix)

But again, the bump successful CO2 emissions erstwhile we physique each azygous EV means the existent gait of "net CO2 emission" simplification per twelvemonth oregon per decennary volition beryllium importantly little than what these reports suggest.


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So it would beryllium incorrect to accidental "EVs/renewables resulted successful 2% driblet successful California emissions past year" oregon "20% driblet implicit 2 decades", simply due to the fact that manufacturing emissions were transferred to China. The existent gait of nett emissions diminution per twelvemonth would beryllium acold lower.

Appreciate your captious thinking. I did not spot the information arsenic well, but California was investing heavy successful RE and EVs successful the past decade, I judge it is wholly imaginable to trim 2% driblet successful emissions arsenic immoderate of the investments implicit the past decennary would person offset their manufacturing emissions by now.

I agree, that manufacturing emissions of these upwind turbines and star should beryllium added to wide emissions of the spot wherever they are installed.

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Slightly OT - Even though emissions portion driving are nil, the biology impacts that EV manufacturing has is undeniable. A batch of the world's lithium is mined successful the Atacama brackish level portion successful Chile. Lithium mining is highly h2o intensive and takes up 65% of the area's h2o proviso (according to this nonfiction by the Quint). However, it's not the lithium mining unsocial that's atrocious for the environment. Lithium ion batteries besides incorporate the mineral cobalt, which is mined chiefly successful the DRC. In these mines, kid labour is prevalent, and the toxic characteristics springiness the radical moving determination lethal diseases.

While yes, the magnitude of CO2 saved successful moving costs by a BEV is significant, we indispensable besides not hide wherever everything came from. Just my 2 cents.

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