Triumph Speed T4 launched at Rs 2.17 lakh

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Why does it consciousness similar the motorcycle is targeted towards radical similar me!
Am I the lone 1 blessed astir this launch?

Tall men successful their mid 30s looking to upgrade their commuter.

I person been sitting connected the obstruction trying to marque a determination betwixt V-Strom (poor sale/service experience) and CB350 H'ness (rusting issues).

The Speed 400 did not entreaty to me. 40 BHP isn't for everyone. The heating (in Chennai weather) was affecting my comfortableness arsenic well.

T4 offers:

- a driblet of 10HP
- Higher probability of much smoothness, substance system and little heating (will hold until the trial ride)
- Same torque that volition footwear successful earlier

I judge T4 is targeted towards CB350/Hunter/Classic 350 customers who aren't fixated connected the retro looks.

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So the database of changes the T4 has implicit the Speed are arsenic follows:

1. The T4's motor makes 31hp @ 7000rpm & 36nm @ 5000 rpm compared to the Speed's 40hp @ 8000rpm & 39nm @ 6500rpm

2. Bias-ply MRF tyres for the T4, compared to the Vredesteins radials connected the Speed.

3. Rear sprocket connected the T4 has 39 teeth compared to the 43 teeth connected the Speed. Triumph besides assertion the T4 makes much torque than the Speed successful the 3500rpm-5500rpm band. The T4 is besides claimed to beryllium astatine slightest 10% much substance efficient.

4. Traction control, USD forks & adjustable gear/brake levers person been skipped connected the T4.

All these changes person reduced the asking terms of the T4 by ₹23k compared to the Speed. I deliberation the T4 volition marque a batch of consciousness for radical who privation a amended equilibrium of powerfulness to substance economy.

Consider my ain usage case: I commute 55km (80% highway) to enactment 5 days a week and bash solo agelong rides of ~500km doubly a month. The torquey quality of the T4 would marque my commutes much amusive and the 10% much substance ratio would adhd up successful the agelong tally too.

I deliberation the T4 is simply a much "practical" Speed for riders who privation a Triumph. It besides gives a much almighty enactment to the 350's from Honda & RE portion retaining that "torquey" feel. Ditto for the Harley X440 and Hero Mavrick 440 too. Should beryllium absorbing to spot what the adjacent motorcycle connected the T4 level is.

P.S: The stickering connected the T4 is perfectly dreadful.

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I don't caput brands selling lesser and smaller bikes for little money. But Triumph should person enactment retired a R15 oregon MT15 rival if they wanted to spell smaller, not immoderate this is. As a manner brand, each merchandise should beryllium special. If you marque a merchandise wholly retired of parts bin, past it should beryllium greater than the sum of its parts. For a nine built connected delayed gratification (10th, 12th, JEE/NEET, masters), however are we incapable of recognising that it is amended to walk 20k much to person thing much amusive and special.

The other, main crushed wherefore I personally americium not a immense instrumentality of this is due to the fact that of however they dainty the large motorcycle owners. It is nary concealed that Triumph India is atrocious but however tin Bajaj deliberation of overextending themselves erstwhile they cannot adjacent get spares connected a tenable timeline for their existing customers. Bajaj tin bash truthful overmuch much with each that wealth they have, similar lobbying the authorities for higher velocity limits for bikes truthful that their 40hp bikes marque much consciousness oregon making the KTM 790 successful India oregon bringing KTM ungraded bikes here. But alas, Bajaj look to endure from ADHD much than a zoomer connected redbull scrolling instagram.

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There was nary request for this. If triumph is selling low, it means the motorcycle is acceptable for selling that overmuch only. I dont expect this motorcycle to bash RE numbers. This was a niche merchandise and Im definite adjacent Triumph knew this. If Triumph wants to merchantability more, possibly grow to much places oregon adhd much features etc. Launching different anserine variant volition bash nary bully to amended sales. When Triumph tin spell backmost to the motorboat prices, I dont spot immoderate crushed wherefore they should beryllium launching this.

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So this is the Bajaj / Triumph mentation of the Bullet? All the signs suggest that:

• High inertia crankshaft = less cogwheel shifts successful postulation and much dependable feeling
• Lower tune = much accessible powerfulness astatine debased speeds
• Also means little heating
• The gearing mightiness beryllium accrued to trim RPM (100 kmph astatine 5750 RPM)

I anticipation they've made changes to the rhythm components arsenic good to lucifer the motor character.

So this is besides nonstop contention with the Honda Hness, Hunter, etc.

Whether this succeeds successful the marketplace depends connected however Triumph positions iit and markets it. They truly request to enactment hard to beforehand imaginable customers to acquisition it because on insubstantial this motorcycle doesn't marque consciousness compared to the Speed 400 based connected the comments truthful far.

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Ride by ligament is besides skipped successful the T400. Cable operated throttle for the T400, hence nary TC. In addition, the rear sub-frame is painted connected the T400 alternatively of pulverization coated connected the Speed 400. I wonderment however overmuch Bajaj-Triumph saved by skipping these?

I think, present the 120 showrooms crossed the state demands much models connected the floor! If determination are takers for the T400 past good and good.

Happy riding,
surjaonwheelz

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Well, we don't cognize the thought process astatine the Triumph think-tank, bash we? I conjecture lone clip volition archer america whether this is going to merchantability successful much numbers oregon not. But IMHO, the motorcycle sounds similar a decent motorcycle successful its ain right. If triumph had launched with a higher priced exemplary and radical question it, I would recognize the perspective. But this, beats me. It's arsenic if radical conscionable don't privation much options for bikers. I americium asking, why? What is determination to beryllium upset about? It's not similar they are stopping the existing models, right?

Off-topic, and personally, I volition beryllium delighted if they motorboat a mini escapade tourer motorcycle with the aforesaid motor arsenic the archetypal 400cc twins.

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Is the yellowish motorcycle successful the representation the Speed T4? Because the yellowish motorcycle sports the USD forks whereas the achromatic 1 has regular telescopic forks. Am I missing something?

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They person launched some T4 and an updated velocity 400. You are seeing some of them successful the aforesaid frame.

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FYI - Triumph 400s are the best-selling successful its category, adjacent including the nonstop rival from RE. Not definite if 'niche' applies successful this discourse astatine all.

August 2024 income figures -

• Triumph 400 - 3328 units
• Bajaj Pulsar NS400z - 2516 units
• Royal Enfield Guerilla 450 - 2205 units
• Harley Davidson X440 - 820 units
• KTM Duke 390 - 711 units
• Bajaj Dominar 400 - 703 units
• Hero Maverick 440 - 170 units

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If the existing speed/scram 400 buyers are upset due to the fact that Bajaj is diluting the marque with this cheaper variant past the those who bought the bigger velocity twins and bonnevilles indispensable person felt the aforesaid erstwhile they launched the 'lesser' 400 models, but I didnt spot galore cribbing astir it. Horses for courses I suppose. I personally would similar a little analyzable motorcycle successful the 400 people without TC, thrust by ligament and blueteeth garb, that is much axenic successful its powerfulness transportation and character. These are conscionable gimmicks I consciousness conscionable to adhd features connected insubstantial but does thing for consciousness and rideability.

And the 400s of contiguous are similar the 250s of yore, they're not premium oregon exclusive anymore I believe. All manufacturers are retired to marque wealth and they dont springiness a squat astir sentiments so, we arsenic buyers should beryllium blessed that there's much contention and ergo amended products alternatively of being upset with trivial worldly similar this.

Anyhoo, backmost to topic, I anticipation the Speed 400's infamous stalling issues are cured by the cablegram linked throttle. Lets see.

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And determination I was. Expecting a Thruxton 400.

Anyway, the biggest winners aft today's motorboat are the existent owners of the Speed400 who bought it astatine 2.23L discount price.

I mean, they downgraded the tyre from Apollo Alpha H1 and accrued the terms to 2.40L. the yellowish 1 looks bully though. New tyre size is 150/70 compared to 150/60 from before. That leaves with little options for upgrade (unless 150/60 fits perfectly fine)

Regarding the 2.17L variant, makes nary consciousness IMO.
No traction control, 9bhp lesser, nary barroom extremity mirrors, wired throttle, telescopic forks and fewer more. So galore features gone. I'd anyday walk 23k (ex-showroom) much and spell for the due variant. It is anyhow creaseless astatine 100kmph connected 6th gear. So I bash not cognize wherefore they selling it to beryllium capable to cruise better. In that way, aren't they indirectly saying the regular Speed400 isn't comfy astatine 100kmph cruising ?

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Perhaps this is the much idiosyncratic affable script for the T4. From immoderate the treatment present has been, It's a triumph win concern for Triumph. If they are capable to merchantability retired a 1000 much 400's from their unchangeable adjacent if it's a T4 oregon customers upgrade to the Speed 400, they person a victor successful their hands. It's benignant of a pulsarification but I anticipation Triumph India remains and stays distant from the Bajaj mindset of merchandise launches.