29th August 2024, 11:43 | #1 |
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Join Date: May 2012 Location: BLR/PTR Posts: 3,331 Thanked: 9,966 Times | Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Was discussing with fewer folks, I was amazed to perceive servicing outgo of 2 Wheeler astatine authorized work center. Most of 2 Wheeler request work each 3-5K KM and work outgo of accidental a motorcycle costing 2L+ is easy is astir 3K. That translates to 6-8K for each 10K KM's. Even for a commuter motorcycle I perceive work outgo each 3K is 1-2K. In comparison, a 6-8L rupee car, a large work outgo is astir 8-10K with inflated bills from work center. And contempt paying precocious amount, the reviews for 2 wheeler work is pathetic irrespective of brand. Not that 4 wheeler work halfway are great, but I find comparatively amended reviews and lawsuit person amended shaper support. Relatively higher outgo tin beryllium attributed to labour, rental costs but past a 2 wheeler request overmuch lesser parts than 4Wheeler .While 2 wheeler is convenient , economical to run, I find the attraction cost, arrogant work centers excessively overmuch of a hassle. Below is simply a examination for Wagon R and Bullet 250 successful Bengaluru. While Wagon R is budget/commuter car, Classic 350 whitethorn beryllium somewhat premium offering. The work outgo of Wagon R seems disconnected successful website, arsenic each 10K would easy beryllium 6-8K. Bullet connected different manus one presume would beryllium astir 5K. That said for a commuter similar Honda Unicorn, I perceive work outgo is easy astir 2-3K for each 3K KMs astatine authorized work center. Bullet work outgo calculator WagonR work outgo calculator |
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29th August 2024, 12:00 | #2 |
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Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6,692 Thanked: 46,219 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? It is conscionable the infamous "inflation" doing its damage. 7% pa ostentation means costs treble each 10 years. If you are paying Rs. 3,000 for servicing a motorcycle now, you were astir apt paying Rs. 1,500 10 years agone and Rs. 750 20 years ago. Very likely, you volition beryllium paying Rs. 6,000 to work your motorcycle successful the twelvemonth 2034. These days, astir car manufacturers person accrued the recommended work interval from 5,000 kms to 10,000 kms. And that does assistance successful lowering work costs. Last edited by SmartCat : 29th August 2024 astatine 12:24. |
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29th August 2024, 12:16 | #3 |
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Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 3,532 Thanked: 11,387 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Quote: It is conscionable inflation. 7% pa ostentation means costs treble each 10 years. If you are paying Rs. 3,000 for servicing a motorcycle now, you were astir apt paying Rs. 1,500 10 years agone and Rs. 750 20 years ago. Very likely, you volition beryllium paying Rs. 6,000 to work your motorcycle successful the twelvemonth 2034. These days, astir car manufacturers person accrued the recommended work interval from 5,000 kms to 10,000 kms. And that does assistance successful lowering work costs. Servicing our Honda Activa astatine the FNG utilized to outgo 300-400 bucks astatine max, little than 10 years ago. Even servicing my Pulsar 180 astatine the Bajaj work halfway outgo 700 bucks. Last month, I paid 1500 bucks for a wide paid work of my Suzuki Avenis, including 450 for work charges. Definitely astonishing for maine and precise costly for a humble scooter.
Edit: recovered the bill. Wonder what they bash with 4 units of grease and 4 pieces of emery insubstantial connected a hardly tally reasonably caller scooter Last edited by ashis89 : 29th August 2024 astatine 12:36. |
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29th August 2024, 12:32 | #4 |
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Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Kerala Posts: 1,859 Thanked: 6,820 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? One of them is an aspiring luxury marque , truthful 80% of the costs is going towards “brand” image. Similar to wherefore a basal Benz A people with a 1.3L renault motor costs mode much than a Tucson oregon analyzable Toyota hybrid to service. |
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29th August 2024, 12:34 | #5 |
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Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,344 Thanked: 859 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Had the aforesaid feeling and hence I shifted the servicing to each alternate year. My usage of Access 125 and TB350 is astir 3k kms per conveyance each year. So, 1 twelvemonth I conscionable get the motor lipid changed astatine the nearest ammunition petrol pump and the 2nd twelvemonth a afloat work astatine the ASS. Seems to beryllium moving truthful acold for the past 6+ years. Not definite if this volition origin immoderate agelong word impact. When I bash get the servicing done astatine ASS, the scooter work costs maine astir Rs.17xx and the motorcycle is astir Rs.32xx. |
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29th August 2024, 12:41 | #6 |
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Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 3,532 Thanked: 11,387 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Quote: Had the aforesaid feeling and hence I shifted the servicing to each alternate year. My usage of Access 125 and TB350 is astir 3k kms per conveyance each year. So, 1 twelvemonth I conscionable get the motor lipid changed astatine the nearest ammunition petrol pump and the 2nd twelvemonth a afloat work astatine the ASS. Seems to beryllium moving truthful acold for the past 6+ years. Not definite if this volition origin immoderate agelong word impact. When I bash get the servicing done astatine ASS, the scooter work costs maine astir Rs.17xx and the motorcycle is astir Rs.32xx. That would beryllium the astir perfect method. In fact, I would debar going to ASS and instrumentality to a competent FNG arsenic I did successful the past with each my 2-wheelers. However, my extended warranty of 5 years would spell for a flip if I did that. Now I wonderment if the EW was worthy it and if I americium paying mode much for work conscionable to support my warranty. |
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29th August 2024, 13:15 | #7 |
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Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Keralam Posts: 284 Thanked: 819 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Definitely Yes! My astir 8 twelvemonth aged Activa 125 (Blu) needs work each 4 months oregon 3-4k kms arsenic per the attraction schedule. Each work with lone basal servicing specified arsenic motor and cogwheel lipid alteration with brake overhauling and labour itself was costing astir Rs 2k. That is astir Rs 6k per year. However each 2nd oregon 3rd work the aerial filter needs to beryllium replaced and determination volition beryllium immoderate different insignificant things to instrumentality attraction of which volition outgo different Rs 2-3k, if not more. So conservatively speaking it costs astir Rs 8-9k for maintaining a scooter per year. This is for a scooter which costed maine astir Rs 80k successful full astatine the clip of purchase. In the aforesaid breath, Our Creta (Panda) which is astir 7 twelvemonth old, and costed astir Rs 14 lakhs, request lone the aforesaid magnitude if not little per twelvemonth for regular servicing. On constituent to constituent comparison, Blu work costs astir arsenic overmuch arsenic Panda per year. Leave ostentation retired of this arsenic it affects both. Both my vehicles are of akin property and person akin mileage (around 64k kms). I had observed this astir a mates of years agone and switched to bi-annual work (at the Honda ASS only) for Blu and it inactive costs astir Rs 4-5k per year. Now I'm reasoning of uncovering a bully autarkic store and bash yearly work and bash the lipid alteration astatine Petrol pumps wherever labour is escaped but lipid is overpriced. Just for the involvement of it, I conscionable compared the yearly walk connected Blu and Panda connected the Fuelio App and I noticed that I had walk astir Rs 9k connected Blu past twelvemonth compared to the Rs 13k connected Panda conscionable for service. Both vehicles had parts replaced. Since I started typing this post, I'm earnestly considering DIY servicing of Blu. Last edited by BLACNWYTE : 29th August 2024 astatine 13:17. |
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29th August 2024, 13:48 | #8 |
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Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,344 Thanked: 859 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Quote: Tried that with mates of FNG's, for some the 2 wheelers and servicing did not animate assurance and the outgo was beauteous adjacent to what ASS were charging, truthful I conscionable instrumentality to them now. However, I hold that if a bully and competent FNG tin bash the job, I would ever similar them. Unfortunately, successful the Kundalahalli country that I reside in, not galore of the FNG are trustworthy. |
29th August 2024, 14:37 | #9 |
Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,968 Thanked: 12,694 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? I conjecture it depends. If you're looking astatine a commuter motorcycle and you are good with getting it serviced astatine a FNG, I deliberation the costs are inactive reasonable. Any motorcycle that costs upward of 2L is surely not successful that class and I conjecture the motorcycle brands marque the aforesaid assumptions astir the lawsuit illustration and complaint accordingly. ASCs ever look to complaint a batch much than a FNG. My woman utilized to ain an Alto and determination was 1 memorable juncture erstwhile the car and my Pulsar went for servicing astatine the aforesaid time. Her measure for the car from an authorized Maruti work halfway was LOWER than my Pulsar's! I utilized to person a bigger motorcycle (a Bullet) that I utilized for agelong journeys and someway I was not comfy getting that serviced extracurricular of the authorized work centers. And fixed the bittersweet prime of RE service, I was surely getting ripped off. But erstwhile I bash bargain a much costly motorcycle again, I'm definite I'll inactive instrumentality to the ASC, contempt that experience. I'm beauteous shocked to perceive the costs of Activa servicing that a mates of posts person described. Honda is milking the Activa marque for sure. Last edited by am1m : 29th August 2024 astatine 14:40. |
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29th August 2024, 14:39 | #10 |
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Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mumbai. Posts: 740 Thanked: 3,755 Times | re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Somewhere I consciousness it has a batch to bash with the income astatine the work center. Service advisors unnecessarily pushing for things specified arsenic cablegram changes, brake pad changes, etc adjacent if its not required. Also, its go a communal signifier to telephone up customers each 2-3 months and accidental that work is owed and if not done, warranty whitethorn void. Keep an oculus connected the services done connected the motorcycle vs the database mentioned successful the work manual. Also the warranty volition not beryllium void, if the conveyance is serviced according to the manual. The worst I had seen was an magnitude of immoderate 7k for 1st work of an Honda Activa. Customer was a young miss who was not overmuch alert nor did she fuss of what the income feline was servicing/changing. I heard him suggesting her to alteration the brake cable, brake pads, oil, lipid filter, aerial filter, sold her immoderate teflon coating, and I americium definite a determination were a mates of much things. Heck, the conveyance was conscionable a period old! SCAM! From my acquisition successful motorcycling, implicit the years I person travel to a conclusion, that determination are a fewer things that request to beryllium taken attraction of:
Well, these are immoderate communal practices that I travel and person not faced immoderate large issues till date. |
29th August 2024, 15:27 | #11 |
BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: bang Posts: 889 Thanked: 3,193 Times | Re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Its not surprising. Motorcycle companies retrieve astir of their margins successful Spare income and service. A 100cc motorcycle whitethorn outgo astir 45000.0 to build. That's the sum full of labour + materials + overheads. Due to marketplace conditions the institution is forced to merchantability it astatine accidental 52000.0 they don't marque overmuch margins astatine that price. This whitethorn beryllium owed to competition, buying powerfulness of their people assemblage and a batch of different factors. Once a merchantability is concluded, past the outgo dynamics rapidly alteration since the motorcycle cannot beryllium serviced astatine immoderate different outlet different than the ASC. So Spares, Services are each jacked up. Its a clip tested strategy not lone successful Automotive but successful astir industries. Sure, it is not fool impervious but astir of the buyers extremity up servicing their bikes religiously astatine the ASC. Discounting the archetypal 3 "Free Service" eyewashes (basically they are conscionable washes) , each motorcycle undergoes astatine slightest 4 "Paid" work successful its beingness time. That's wherever the further margins are recovered. I americium alert of immoderate cases wherever the ASC pays up to 25% of their work complaint to their principals arsenic immoderate benignant of commission. |
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29th August 2024, 15:49 | #12 |
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Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pune Posts: 1,017 Thanked: 4,211 Times | Re: Are motorcycles & scooters becoming excessively costly to maintain? Most ICE scooters outgo much successful conscionable work costs than an EV costs successful moving costs. Petrol costs connected the ICE are not included successful the above. My nephew precocious got himself an Ather 450 Apex (absolutely superb scoot that) and turns retired determination is nary clip based work interval connected the Ather. It's conscionable to beryllium done each 5k km, whenever those hap to complete. Given the usage signifier of scooters successful my family, it volition astir apt instrumentality 2-3 years earlier they implicit the 5k km (the erstwhile scooter has tally astir 11k km since 2016). In those 5k km, we would person utilized astir ₹2000 successful energy successful Warp+ mode. The aforesaid connected an Activa would necessitate astatine slightest 9-10 services to marque definite the warranty remains intact. At ₹1500/service, the Activa would person outgo 13k much successful conscionable service. The petrol would beryllium different 13-14k. Total magnitude of savings is ₹26000 oregon astir ₹5.2/km for a debased usage EV. The lone crushed to person a petrol commute conveyance nowadays is if you bash not person entree to charging astatine location OR your commute is longer than 80-90km/day. |
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