26th May 2024, 21:38 | #1 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 521 Times | A Tata Nexon warranty horror story A close friend of mine from Kochi, Kerala, has a 2021 Nexon Petrol. It has run 42K. He started hearing some noises under the hood and took the car in to the dealership (Luxon Tata, Cheranallur). The car is under extended warranty, so it was a no brainer. Or, so he thought. This was diagnosed to a belt tensioner and was going to be changed under warranty. However, the dealership called back and told him that his coolant is now milkshake - which happens when oil and coolant mix. This is bad juju, as you can imagine. He was sent an estimate of 55k. Shockingly, the work wouldn't be covered entirely by warranty. The failure was traced to the oil cooler (which is covered under warranty), but to properly fix this failure, you need to flush everywhere the coolant and oil would go, and replace a ton of parts. The radiator and heater core (the heat exchanger inside the dash) would also need to be replaced. No matter how much flushing you do, the milkshake from hell can't be removed fully from the narrow passages from the radiator or heat exchanger. I've attached the estimate here. Only the items marked in red are covered in warranty. The excuse is that only these parts are covered under extended warranty. My friend was given no information about what is covered and what isn't when he paid for the extended warranty (Gokulam Tata in Aluva - absolute disgrace of a dealership). He was told it would no different from the factory warranty. Even so, this would be understandable if the failure point is not covered under warranty. Here, a part that is covered under warranty made this work required. But only the parts covered under extended warranty would be covered? Its not like my friend crashed his car or did something to make the heater core fail. A warrantied Tata OEM part failed and caused this failure. Makes no sense! To make things even worse, the SA told us that these oil cooler failures are becoming more and more common and Tata has demanded them flush and reuse the radiator for a previous warranty job. It obviously did not work as expected, so the dealership has asked Tata to cover the radiator replacement on warranty for my friend's case. Now, I don't expect this post to do anything for this case. Even very senior journos have escalated things to Tata for their own family cars and the Tata after sales team does not care. My friend is not very automotively inclined. He went and bought Tata for his first car due to his love for the Tata brand and mystique. To say he is disappointed would be an understatement. After he completely understood what this failure is and the fix, he now plans to dispose of the car as soon as financially possible. If you buy Tata, caveat emptor! Last edited by bblost : 27th May 2024 at 19:17. Reason: Foul Language even if used indirectly like %^&% is not allowed. Thanks. |
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26th May 2024, 22:04 | #2 |
BHPian Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: New Delhi Posts: 187 Thanked: 451 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalZ My friend is not very automotively inclined. He went and bought Tata for his first car due to his love for the Tata brand and mystique. To say he is disappointed would be an understatement. After he completely understood what this failure is and the fix, he now plans to dispose of the car as soon as financially possible. If you buy Tata, caveat emptor! That is a sad experience. I can only hope that the Tata Motors folks can address the issue and restore the confidence of the customer. One dissatisfied customer will eventually take away 10 sales. I hope TML can work more closely with the customer to address the issue to an amicable solution. |
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27th May 2024, 05:55 | #3 |
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Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 3,142 Thanked: 5,485 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalZ The failure was traced to the oil cooler (which is covered under warranty), but to properly fix this failure, you need to flush everywhere the coolant and oil would go, and replace a ton of parts. The radiator and heater core (the heat exchanger inside the dash) would also need to be replaced. No matter how much flushing you do, the milkshake from hell can't be removed fully from the narrow passages from the radiator or heat exchanger. I don't believe that is true, that a flush can't get all the gunk out. You need to do multiple coolant flushes. Thats probably a job the authorized service center does not want to do as it can take up a lot of time. I'm also not sure if there is a connection between the oil cooler and coolant. These are usually independent circuits. I feel like there are too many parts suggested for replacement before a proper diagnosis is done. Might be better to cough up some losses and find a competent independent garage to sort out the issue. |
27th May 2024, 08:16 | #4 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,182 Thanked: 521 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story Quote: The oil cooler on this engine is a oil-coolant sandwich plate, not a front mounted heat exchanger. The diagnosis is accurate. The parts list is needs to contain everywhere the oil goes and everywhere the coolant goes. I'm not familiar with the engine to know whether this is exhaustive enough. |
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27th May 2024, 12:21 | #5 |
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Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 143 Thanked: 557 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story This is a real bad judgement by TATA to treat the customer like this ! Also, warranty matters come later - this is the brand building at the poorest level - how can TATA expects the readers to go ahead with any TATA vehicle purchase if TATA cannot stand up & accepts the OEM part failure . Also it looks like a design flaw - interconnection of oil & coolant circuit !! |
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27th May 2024, 14:25 | #6 |
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Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Delhi Posts: 789 Thanked: 3,384 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story Quote: While I love to see people shidd on Tata for their crappy products, I would refrain from making remarks like this if you haven't taken a close look under the hood of any car in the past 10-15 years. Even your S Cross has an oil cooler body, which could fail. That doesn't make an established practice a design flaw. Think of it as a water cooled solution for carrying away heat, in this case, from the engine oil. |
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27th May 2024, 15:00 | #7 |
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Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 4,230 Thanked: 5,951 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story Quote: Almost all modern cars have it. It is called as oil cooler where the engine oil gets cooled by the coolant. The 1.3MJD was notorious for the oil cooler failure which caused the oil and coolant to mix and become milkshake. Key to avoid this is to keep the coolant in good condition by changing it in adherence to manufacturer recommended change interval |
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27th May 2024, 19:07 | #8 |
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Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,048 Thanked: 6,664 Times | Re: A Tata Nexon warranty horror story Hi Nexon Owner KL-75-B-1570, So TATA is replacing the following under warranty. ---PARTS--- ***LABOR*** And you are paying for these ---PAID--- ---Questionable Area--- Now let me open a can of worms. The noise you probably heard was from the valves slapping or ticking or a piston slap due to bad lube. How many kms was the car driven like this? Find the root cause first. Just dont clean and refit what the eye sees. Did someone open and check where the oil cooler gave way for the water and oil to mix? Was the head gasket ok? Was a compression test done to rule out engine issue? If water travelled through the engine, the timing chain, gears are all probably damaged too!! Top end damage means the camshaft and the valves, etc etc are having increased tolerances now. And wait, the bottom end, crankshaft, main bearings are also to be assumed ran on water/oil mix now and hence damaged. Basically, you either fight for a full engine/HVAC replacement or a heavily discounted repair job (or last option no one wants - court/case/delays). First get the engine checked before you start fighting over pennies (this part and that labor talk...). I think someone is running away from a bigger culpability. PS - Hope your case is water tight, No LPG/CNG kit I suppose? And no history of major front Accidents? Hope no services done in road side garages too? Last edited by svsantosh : 27th May 2024 at 19:09. |
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